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Hi there,

May I know which EC are you looking at?

I am able to assist you with your enquiries. You may reach me at 94507283  for further assistance.

Gary Shien
 94507283 
Associate Group Director
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Hi

a) & b) not much difference except that bounce out units typically appear only many months after launch or even right before TOP, these are units that the first buyers booked but couldn't complete with the purchase due to ineligibility, financial loan didn't get approved sufficiently reasons etc. Developer can choose to sell them anytime as bounce out units can happen anytime also. These units prices are much higher than launch price, as you can imagine the supply of these units are much limited versus the demand by then. Its hard to put an exact number how much is the % increase as it varies from developer.

c) again hard to put an exact % for increment as it depends on the demand (they can gauge using number of e-applications collected), but at this phase, typically there's still about 20% - 30% units left so developer usually will factor that into consideration before doing their price adjustment. From other ECs experience it appears to be 2 to 5% adjustment. But it also depends on the unit type, how hot the project demand is, and whether its NPS or Deferred Payment.

d) if it so happens you didn't get to buy as it becomes fully sold before your q is called, the next phase possible is probably the balloting for bounce out units.

I have experience helping hdb owners upgrading to EC as a 2nd timer and can do up a detailed financial calculation for you. I suppose you are looking at Aurelle Tampines EC?

Hope the above clarifies. I am well-versed with HDB and private property transactions, having helped more than 100 homeowners transit smoothly with their housing plans. Please reach out to me at 97432395  for a more in-depth discussion :)

May I have more info on your requirements so as to make better recommendations? Thanks and looking forward to chat more

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Hi, appreciate your sharing. Prices will be increasing base on the demand of the condo, and which stage you are purchasing. For bounce out unit consider as the same from launch and require HDB approval before able to purchase.
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Stewart-PropNex (Senior Associate Division Director) Read More

Bounced out unit and 2nd time ballot units are essentially similar, where 2nd time balloting units are usually those units that bounced out right from the start after the 1st booking day, due to various reasons. Typically bounced out units can happen anytime during the construction phase, due to different reasons like marital issues or financial issues. Developers are free to re-price these units based on demand and market sentiments, therefore any past numbers collated is not applicable for future cases.

I'll say that if you are interested in getting a brand new EC, do your necessary financial checks and just go for it if you fulfill the eligibility criteria. In many occasions, the opportunity to own a unit in new developments boils down not only to your financial readiness but also your luck to get that early ballot ticket.

Let me know how else can we assist further.

——

I have been in the real estate business since 2009, with more than 14 years of experience serving the Singapore real estate market.

I am very active in the residential segment of Singapore real estate market, having transacted hundreds of deals from HDBs to private condominiums and landed properties in Singapore, and have handled many unique cases in sales and purchases as well as rental deals.

Over the years, I have also established a network reaching out to more than 15,900 expatriates, bringing my market presence to both in and outside of Singapore. This has created an additional exposure when I manage my client's portfolios, on top of the conventional on and offline platforms, where other estate agents are relying on. This has allowed me to consistently convert leads into results.

With an evolving market, where change is the only constant, I have also been investing in upgrading of my knowledge and skills sets to improve myself and meet the demands of current and future market.

We are offering our clients a complimentary first consultation without obligations (Absolutely FREE!). Schedule for your FREE session today!

Warmest regards,
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Senior Division Associate Director
Email: geryl.lim@orangetee.com / geryl7772@gmail.com
OrangeTee & Tie Pte Ltd 430 Lorong 6 Toa Payoh #01-01 OrangeTee Building Singapore 319402
Estate Agent Licence No. L3009250K
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Hi,

I would be most glad to assist you further and pls feel free to let me know if you need any assistance. Have a good day ahead. By the way, I suppose you are looking at Aurelle EC which will be launching soon?

Regards
Aaron Chong
 9730 8455 
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Hi Sir/Mdm,

Let me provide you with some clarifications.

a) There is no difference except that the bounced out unit may be priced higher if they are released at a much later date from the launch date. For bounced out unit, developers prefer a straight forward purchase case.

b) There is no clear formula as it is dependent on the developer and the market conditions.

c) Usually about 3% to 5% depending on the response of the initial launch.

d) Yes the price will be higher and not easy to get bounced out units as well because balloting is required for a small number of units.

Please feel free to contact me if you need any further assistance.

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Selling our house was a pretty stressful ordeal, as we have already committed to buying our new home and hence have a timeline to meet. Losing a substantial deposit and worse still, not getting our dream home caused many sleepless nights as we are nearing our deadline. I am very glad we have decided to switch to Nick and seek his help after the dismal performance of our first agent. Not only is Nick very patient in explaining things to us, time and time again he gives us reassu Read More

I would be glad to assist you.
Feel free to contact me at wa.me/6597100155
Hope to hear from you soon.
Pei Mobile: (65) 9 7 1 0 0 1 5 5.
Email: peicheng.tan@propnex.com
Associate Group Director
Propnex Realty Pte Ltd Read More

JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION / ESTIMATE RANGE :
1. **Difference between bounced-out EC units and 2nd-time balloting units**:
- Bounced-out units are those initially booked but later released due to buyers backing out.
- 2nd-time balloting units are unsold units offered in a second ballot, usually a month after the launch.

2. **Cost increase for bounced-out EC units**:
- Bounced-out units are typically priced higher than the launch price, often by 5-10%, depending on market demand and project progress.

3. **Cost increase for 2nd-time balloting units**:
- Units in the 2nd-time ballot may see a slight price increase, usually around 3-5%, compared to the launch price.

4. **Chances to buy after 2nd-time balloting**:
- If you miss the 2nd-time ballot, you can still purchase bounced-out units closer to TOP (Temporary Occupation Permit).
- Prices for these units are likely to be significantly higher, potentially 10-15% above the launch price, due to increased demand and project completion.

As Warren Buffett once said, *"Price is what you pay; value is what you get."*

WhatsApp me at: ABLE Toh (65) 9856-9255  or through this link.:https://wa.me/6598569255
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(1) "If you need more assistance with property matters:
like renting / selling, buying / or investing, I'm here to help!
WhatsApp me at: ABLE Toh (65) 9856*9255 or through this link.:https://wa.me/6598569255
(Unfortunately, this platform doesn't allow direct contact, but you can easily reach me )

(2) (***) ✅✅ You can READ my REVIEWS here:
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(3) ✅✅ For PRIVATE Home Buyers, I offer solutions for sourcing resale and new PRIVATE homes at ✅✅ ZERO charge (Because Most PRIVATE seller Agent are willing to share commission with Buyer Agent)

*** You can reach me at my Singapore mobile: (65) 9856 9255  or email me at Able.selling@gmail.com.

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(4A)✅✅ For the Below Condominium that may Achieve TOP ( Temporary Occupation Permit / Relatively New Condominium which may faced Difficulties/ Challenges to rent / sell at your Expected Pricing as facing too many neighbour’s units competing to Sell / Rent Out ,...
(4B)✅ ✅ ✅ I am okays NOT TO be the Sole Exclusive Agent , but the “ Open Listing “, additional pair of hands to help you bring the matching buyer / tenant . “ May the Hardworking + Lucky agent close the Deal !!, ( Whether it’s me or another agent ,✅✅✅ I will still be HAPPY FOR THE OWNER !! ✅✅My advantage is : I myself , have a Small Team of Agents who will work together with me to cast a wider Marketing Nets to Reach Your Goal !!!
Below is a list for reference >> see if YOUR CONDOMINIUM IS BEING MENTIONED:
(4C)✅ ✅ ✅
(1) Affinity At Serangoon, (2) Canninghill Square, (3) Dairy Farm Residences
(4) Forett at Bukit Timah, (5) KI Residences At Brookvale, (6) Kent Ridge Hill Residences
(7) Leedon Green, (8) Lavender Residence, (9) Meyer Mansion
(10) MeyerHouse, (11) Midwood, (12) M Suites
(13) NoMa, (14) One-North Eden, (15) One Pearl Bank
(16) Phoenix Residences, (17) Riviere, (18) Riverfront Residences
(19) Tedge, (20) The Atelier, (21) The Iveria
(22) Verticus, (23) Zyanya, (24) Mayfair Gardens

(5A) ✅ ✅ >> FOR NEW CONDOMINIUM IN
✅ ✅ YEAR 2025 / APARTMENT PROJECTS In Singapore
(5B) ✅ ✅ the LIST :
(1) Arina East Residences, (2) Aurea, (3) Aurelle of Tampines (EC)
(4) Bagnall Haus (former Bagnall Court), (5) Bukit Timah and Duke's Road, (6) ELTA
(7) Former Anson Centre, (8) Former Robertson Walk, (9) Keppel Bay Plot 6
(10) Lentor Central Residences, (11) Marina Gardens Lane, (12) Media Circle GLS
(13) Newport Residences, (14) Orchard Boulevard GLS, (15) Parktown Residence
(16) Plantation Close (EC) (2), (17) The Orie, (18) W Residenc Read More

Hi,

May I know which EC you are interested in? So that I can provide more details?

This platform does not allow me to contact you directly so kindly contact me at https://wa.me/6597261112 I would be glad to assist you further.

Thank you and best regards,

Jenny Tran
Propnex Realty Pte Ltd
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(Email) jenny.tran@propnex.com
BSc (Real Estate) (Hons)-NUS

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JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION / ESTIMATE RANGE :
1. **Difference between bounced-out EC units and 2nd-time balloting units**:
- Bounced-out units are those initially booked but later released due to buyers backing out.
- 2nd-time balloting units are unsold units offered in a second ballot, usually a month after the launch.

2. **Cost increase for bounced-out EC units**:
- Bounced-out units are typically priced higher than the launch price, often by 5-10%, depending on market demand and project progress.

3. **Cost increase for 2nd-time balloting units**:
- Units in the 2nd-time ballot may see a slight price increase, usually around 3-5%, compared to the launch price.

4. **Chances to buy after 2nd-time balloting**:
- If you miss the 2nd-time ballot, you can still purchase bounced-out units closer to TOP (Temporary Occupation Permit).
- Prices for these units are likely to be significantly higher, potentially 10-15% above the launch price, due to increased demand and project completion.

As Warren Buffett once said, *"Price is what you pay; value is what you get."*

WhatsApp me at: ABLE Toh (65) 9856-9255  or through this link.:https://wa.me/6598569255
----------------------------888--------------------------------888--------------------------->>>
(1) "If you need more assistance with property matters:
like renting / selling, buying / or investing, I'm here to help!
WhatsApp me at: ABLE Toh (65) 9856*9255 or through this link.:https://wa.me/6598569255
(Unfortunately, this platform doesn't allow direct contact, but you can easily reach me )

(2) (***) ✅✅ You can READ my REVIEWS here:
✅✅ https://www.propertyguru.com.sg/agent/able-s-k-toh-61591.

(3) ✅✅ For PRIVATE Home Buyers, I offer solutions for sourcing resale and new PRIVATE homes at ✅✅ ZERO charge (Because Most PRIVATE seller Agent are willing to share commission with Buyer Agent)

*** You can reach me at my Singapore mobile: (65) 9856 9255  or email me at Able.selling@gmail.com.

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Dear sir/mdm,

Have you arrived at a decision? Actually 2nd timer does not mean that your chances are low unless the entire development is oversubscribed significantly. Otherwise the quota allocated for 2nd timer will be there for the 1st booking day, and 2nd timers have fair share of chance thereafter, so perhaps when it comes to unit choices, the range maybe smaller.

——

I have been in the real estate business since 2009, with more than 14 years of experience serving the Singapore real estate market.

I am very active in the residential segment of Singapore real estate market, having transacted hundreds of deals from HDBs to private condominiums and landed properties in Singapore, and have handled many unique cases in sales and purchases as well as rental deals.

Over the years, I have also established a network reaching out to more than 15,900 expatriates, bringing my market presence to both in and outside of Singapore. This has created an additional exposure when I manage my client's portfolios, on top of the conventional on and offline platforms, where other estate agents are relying on. This has allowed me to consistently convert leads into results.

With an evolving market, where change is the only constant, I have also been investing in upgrading of my knowledge and skills sets to improve myself and meet the demands of current and future market.

We are offering our clients a complimentary first consultation without obligations (Absolutely FREE!). Schedule for your FREE session today!

Warmest regards,
Geryl Lim
Senior Division Associate Director
Email: geryl.lim@orangetee.com / geryl7772@gmail.com
OrangeTee & Tie Pte Ltd 430 Lorong 6 Toa Payoh #01-01 OrangeTee Building Singapore 319402
Estate Agent Licence No. L3009250K
 +65 92787772 
www.geryllim.com

My self introductory video on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_2NydENfx0

-----

Note: We value your home as much as you do! Find out the indicative value of your home at http://bit.ly/UrHomeMatters and get monthly update on your home value. Restructure your portfolio with us, speak to us!

Tenants can visit http://bit.ly/SGExpatRental (Official Rental Requirements - Singapore Expatriates) to indicate your rental requirements.

Visit and Like my facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/GerylLimSince2009/ - Aspiring To Be The Best Real Estate Agent In Singapore

Pick up knowledge, skills and Real Estate concepts at https://www.facebook.com/RealEstateXcellence/

New Singapore Expatriates on facebook is up and running. Come join us at https://www.facebook.com/groups/newsgexpats/

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Home of *7772 Hotline
Check out our latest Landed Dynamic Alliance 7772 mobile application on iOS or Android @ http://l.ead.me/7772 Read More

WhatsApp me at: ABLE Toh (65) 9856-9255  or through this link.:https://wa.me/6598569255
----------------------------888--------------------------------888--------------------------->>>
(1) "If you need more assistance with property matters:
like renting / selling, buying / or investing, I'm here to help!
WhatsApp me at: ABLE Toh (65) 9856*9255 or through this link.:https://wa.me/6598569255
(Unfortunately, this platform doesn't allow direct contact, but you can easily reach me )

(2) (***) ✅✅ You can READ my REVIEWS here:
✅✅ https://www.propertyguru.com.sg/agent/able-s-k-toh-61591.

(3) ✅✅ For PRIVATE Home Buyers, I offer solutions for sourcing resale and new PRIVATE homes at ✅✅ ZERO charge (Because Most PRIVATE seller Agent are willing to share commission with Buyer Agent)

*** You can reach me at my Singapore mobile: (65) 9856 9255  or email me at Able.selling@gmail.com.

From: ABLE Toh- Your Property ASSISTANT : ）
“ i am ABLE to Help As Much As You are ABLE To PM (Private Message) me ”
=========
(4A)✅✅ For the Below Condominium that may Achieve TOP ( Temporary Occupation Permit / Relatively New Condominium which may faced Difficulties/ Challenges to rent / sell at your Expected Pricing as facing too many neighbour’s units competing to Sell / Rent Out ,...
(4B)✅ ✅ ✅ I am okays NOT TO be the Sole Exclusive Agent , but the “ Open Listing “, additional pair of hands to help you bring the matching buyer / tenant . “ May the Hardworking + Lucky agent close the Deal !!, ( Whether it’s me or another agent ,✅✅✅ I will still be HAPPY FOR THE OWNER !! ✅✅My advantage is : I myself , have a Small Team of Agents who will work together with me to cast a wider Marketing Nets to Reach Your Goal !!!
Below is a list for reference >> see if YOUR CONDOMINIUM IS BEING MENTIONED:
(4C)✅ ✅ ✅
(1) Affinity At Serangoon, (2) Canninghill Square, (3) Dairy Farm Residences
(4) Forett at Bukit Timah, (5) KI Residences At Brookvale, (6) Kent Ridge Hill Residences
(7) Leedon Green, (8) Lavender Residence, (9) Meyer Mansion
(10) MeyerHouse, (11) Midwood, (12) M Suites
(13) NoMa, (14) One-North Eden, (15) One Pearl Bank
(16) Phoenix Residences, (17) Riviere, (18) Riverfront Residences
(19) Tedge, (20) The Atelier, (21) The Iveria
(22) Verticus, (23) Zyanya, (24) Mayfair Gardens

(5A) ✅ ✅ >> FOR NEW CONDOMINIUM IN
✅ ✅ YEAR 2025 / APARTMENT PROJECTS In Singapore
(5B) ✅ ✅ the LIST :
(1) Arina East Residences, (2) Aurea, (3) Aurelle of Tampines (EC)
(4) Bagnall Haus (former Bagnall Court), (5) Bukit Timah and Duke's Road, (6) ELTA
(7) Former Anson Centre, (8) Former Robertson Walk, (9) Keppel Bay Plot 6
(10) Lentor Central Residences, (11) Marina Gardens Lane, (12) Media Circle GLS
(13) Newport Residences, (14) Orchard Boulevard GLS, (15) Parktown Residence
(16) Plantation Close (EC) (2), (17) The Orie, (18) W Residences Singapore- Marina View
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*** Connect Singapore Line: (65) 9856*9255
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